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Michael
Dalton Allred is one of the most innovative
and valued comics creators. His first professional work dates back
to 1989 on the Dead Air volume. In 1990 Frank Einstein -
Madman's alter ego - gets his first appearance on the pages
of Creatures of the Id (Caliber).
With his "pop
art" drawing style - magnified by fabulous colors of his wife
Laura - and stories full of sense of wonder, Allred has conquered
fans and critics and got Madman a comics classic.
His recognizable
sign has enlightened popular comics icons such as Sandman (Sandman
#54 -The Golden Boy), Spiderman (Untold Tales of Spiderman
'96) and Superman (Superman/Madman - Hullabaloo).
Actually he is working
on the new surprising incarnation of Marvel's X-Force (from
#116, with scripts by Peter Milligan). In the near future we'll
see more Madman and Atomics.
But there is more
than comics in Mike Allred's artistic life. He is a skilled musician
with his rock band The Gear and has shot a couple of low
budget movies and collaborated with director Kevin Smith.
More info about Mike
Allred and his works at www.aaapop.com
[1]
COMICS FOR MADMEN
[2]
MUTANTING EVENTS
[3]
ATOMIC MUSIC
[4]
HOLLYWOOD, I'M ARRIVING!
[1]
COMICS FOR MADMEN
Let's start with some classic
ones. When did you start doing comics? I know you had worked as
a TV journalist in Europe, is it true?
Yup. I was a TV reporter
for AFRTS [American Forces Radio & Television Service] via the
Air Force. We were headquartered in Ramstein, Germany but sent all
over Europe to cover human interest stories for Americans living
in Europe while CNN covered most of the hard news. My first
assignment there was covering an air show disaster where two Italian
jets collided midair and then barreled through the crowd.
Which are your
comics influences? And what did those artists or books teach you?
Just about everything
becomes an influence at some point but my strongest intentional
ones would be Jack Kirby, Alex Toth, The Hernadez Bros., Bruno Premiani,
Ives Challand, Will Eisner, and Harvey Kurtzman (and EC COMICS).
When
did you create Madman? Where did you get the original idea from?
I know his first name was The Spook.
I had created Frank
Einstein in the pages of Grafik Muzik and then in 1992, in
a desperate act for commercial success decided to put a costume
on him. I liked the name The Spook for it's homage to The Spirit
but we soon found someone had filed an intent to use copyright.
I was reading [J.D. Salinger's] Catcher in the rye at the
time and the protagonist, Holden Caulfield uses the word "madman"
descriptively throughout. I thought it was the perfect name and
VOILA!
Madman is one
of the most unique and recognizable comics characters. His real
name - Frank Einstein - is a blast and a perfect "pop" example:
a fusion between Frank Sinatra and Albert Einstein, plus the obvious
recall to Mary Shelley's classic monster. What does pop culture
mean to you and in which way does it get into your storytelling?
It means almost EVERYTHING
to me. Outside of the obviousness of human existence and spirituality
my life has been deluged with pop culture from toys to monster magazines--from
music to movies. From there it simply spills into my creative juices
quite naturally.
In
Madman you mix super fun adventure stories full of robots, mad scientists,
time travels, aliens and a lot more, with philosophical reflections
about the universe, God, love and the sense of life. Is it possible
to conciliate entertainment and a little bit of brain?
I think so. I try.
Looking at your
art, it is a natural thing to relate it to Roy Lichtenstein's works
and to Pop Art in general. It is a strange and exciting short circuit.
Comics and Art.
In a Madman miniseries
you inserted a guest appearance of extraordinary painter Escher.
Which are your influences in the Art field?
Again. Just about
everything I'm exposed to but Magritte and Warhol would have to
go near the top of the list
Can comics be Art?
It is.
When you work
on Madman do you first write a plot, a detailed script or just start
doing thumbnails and putting your ideas directly on paper? How long
does it take you to do a page?
I
work from an ever expanding outline that becomes a complete script
as I nail down each issue. I then do thumbnails, the page layout,
the lettering, pencils then ink it. I think I average about two
complete pages a day when I get the drawing and inking.
Your wife Laura is one of the best colorist in the comics biz. Does
she get any input for your stories? Is she completely free in coloring
or do you suggest her something about the colors palette?
She generally does
it on her own. I have trouble telling some colors apart, but she
has an amazing color sense. Sometimes I have specific ideas for
the color or on the rare occasion ask her to change something. But
she's the best and works best when left to her own whims.
A
curiosity, in Madman: The Oddity Odyssey I loved the gray touch
that magnified the b-movie atmosphere … surely the pop art colors
of Laura are great and an essential Madman's element … but, is there
any possibility to see another story like that?
It's possible. The
main reason that was done that way is because it was cheaper. That
or B/W. When the original MADMAN was a hit we were allowed to go
full color.
After Madman you
expanded his and your universe creating The Atomics - Madman and
the super street beatniks - and your own publishing house, AAA Pop.
Can you introduce us the Atomics?
I simply wanted to
have more colorful characters in Frank's world, so like before a
simply put costumes on my mutant beatniks.
Now that you are
working on "marvelous" stuff, can we expect other Atomics books
in the future?
The plan was to end
the ATOMICS with issue #16 and switch to a MADMAN monthly. With
the X-FORCE opportunity we've had to compress the ATOMICS finale
into issue 15 and postpone the MADMAN series indefinitely. [up]

[2]
MUTANTING EVENTS
Some years ago
- if I remember right it was in 1997 - you wrote an article for
Fan magazine where you said: "We, fans of comic books, are the pop
culture elite. And we MUST stop working so hard to keep the rest
of the world from joining us. […] Movies, music, magazines, collectibles,
television and books, all seems to be of great interest to fans
of pop culture. […] I'm telling you, we are the pop culture elite.
Yes, an entire subculture completely out of touch with reality".
And again, "You
have to believe that if [a comics] is good, if it's really good,
it will sell. Our industry will curl up and die if we don't promote,
support and encourage charge, diversity and most important, quality."
Today which is
your vision of the fandom, of comics quality and comics market?
Do you fell that comics-based films such as Xmen and the upcoming
Ghost World, Spiderman and From Hell give comics a new visibility
in the public audience and can attract new readers?
The reality is, they
have little or no effect in bringing new readers to comics. But
they do bring awareness--if nothing else they tell the world that
comics--the art form--still exists. That general awareness
is more likely to attract the curious even more than a GOOD comic
book movie. But still, if the curious aren't directed towards the
good stuff... bye bye.
In
the same article, you also said: "I'm not anti-superhero, I'm anti-crappy
comics! […] Why do we keep dragging around the dead corpse of the
superhero genre". And now you are doing X-Force. Ah, sure it is
a complete new X-Force, but it's the same book created by Rob Liefeld.
Gosh, Mike Allred and Peter "Shade" Milligan playing with the title
created by Rob Liefeld. Unbelievable! What has happened? With Joe
Quesada as the Boss, is it a real New Marvel? What is the most exciting
thing in being a "master of mutant puppets"?
Again, I don't care
about genre as much as I do overall quality. The book could be about
insurance salesmen if it could be interesting and artful.
Simple facts: the industry continues to be supported by the
superhero books. Probably always will be. And costumes
make for colorful characters, even if only on the surface. When
I wrote that I was optimistic about more genres finding success
in the industry. Hasn't happened yet. The Atomics offered
an experiment to see if superheroes also sold better as an independent.
They do. While I'm proud of the Red Rocket 7 project, it wasn't
commercially successful. We barely broke event. Too expensive--Too
weird.
With X-FORCE I've
been able to fulfill a childhood dream by creating and co-creating
my own X-Men. With Joe Q., the rebirth of the fabled (if not
fictional) Marvel bullpen. With the creative freedom and support--and
mutual admiration of other creators it's been sheer pure creative
joy (Peter Milligans scripts are GENIUS. ). There's a new excitement
and optimism. Will that result in progressive comics? I don't know.
But can't hurt.
Do you think Alan
Moore told a horrible truth when he said that it's impossible in
USA market to do more than superhero stuff in order to reach the
mass audience? That you have to present your character as a superhero,
even if it is only a spandex and cape matter, and then you can overlay
something more - as in his Promethea book - but at the first impact,
you have to do a superhero.
I think that's cold
hard fact. Look at the sales charts over the past 20 years (or 60
for that matter). In the top 100, with the exception of licensed
properties like Buffy or Star Wars it's almost exclusively superheroes
(and aren't Buffy and Star Wars superheroes too?).
About X-Force, Vince Brusio wrote
on Previews: "This is one comics reader who always preferred alternative
reading to mainstream titles. But with the release of X-Force, I've
become a recent convert." Can X-Force be the lost link between mainstream
and alternative comics? Ah, I love what you and Peter are doing
on the X-book!
Thanks! I've
always felt that division was ridiculous. We (comic book fans) have
more in common through our love of the art form than people who
aren't exposed to it at all. That I enjoy EIGHTBALL as much as NEW
X-MEN or vice versa shouldn't be a shock to anyone who loves good
comics. I feel the same way about movies. I see almost everything.
I love great movies. I loathe lousy ones. A great action movie is
better than a crummy art film and a great art film is better than
a crummy action film.
Which X-Force
character do you prefer drawing? And why?
Edie. Because
she's PERTY. VERY PERTY. PERTY! PERTY! PERTY!

Let play a game.
I list some names of comic writers you worked with as penciler.
Which is their best quality?
Brian Michael
Bendis
HIS SHINY HEAD.
Peter Milligan
HIS ACCENT.
Kevin Smith
HIS SISTER.
Neil Gaiman
HIS SMELL.
Mike Allred (!)
HIS FEET.
Which comics artist
would you like to work with?
The ones I am working
with.
Which comics books
do you currently read?
Most of them.
You briefly played
with two major comics icons: Spiderman and Superman. What do you
like in them?
Their Iconography.
I
remember a Batman project similar to Superman/Madman: Hullabaloo!
If a remember well it was named Batman a go-go. When will
we see this one? Can you tell us something about the story?
DC hasn't pursued
it. And I haven't had the time to shove it at them lately.
I'd like to get to it someday for sure. Until then--SHHH.
You wrote Crash
Metro (with art by Martin Ontiveros, published by Oni Press), the
first thing you have done for somebody else to draw. What was like
to see your vision put on paper by somebody else than you? Will
you repeat that experience?
Loved it! And
would love to do it again.
In these years
the comics market all over the world has been hit by the "manga
invasion". What do you think of mangas? Do you like them? Do they
show a new way of storytelling that comics creator has to learn
and assimilate? There are a lot of successful American manga artist
such as Madureira, Adam Warren …
I like some of it.
LOVE the visual language. Adam Warren is a TERRIFIC artist.
Plus,
you are inking the new Catwoman series (art by Darwyn Cooke, story
by Ed Brubaker). In "Chasing Amy" a fan said that an inker is only
a "retracer". What do you think about? Which is your approch in
inking some other pencils? Do you like it?
Inking
is the icing on the cake and color is the candles. I loved the project
and thrilled to work with Ed, Darwyn and my old lettere Sean Konot.
So far it's great fun. [up]

[3] ATOMIC
MUSIC
It's sure Mike
Allred loves music. When did you get the idea to do Red Rocket 7?
It was an astounding way to tell the story of contemporary pop music.
And it was great to see your portraits of all those musicians, from
Led Zeppelin to Devo, from Beatles to Bjork!
Thanks! It
all came together in a rush of inspiration to the detriment of MADMAN
and Dark Horse. I was obsessed with it and was crippled to
anything else until it was out of my system.
Is Red Rocket
7 the work you are proud the most, your dream project?
To be honest, at
the moment, X-FORCE is what I'm most proud of. But it's always
what's in front of me at the time. That and FUTURE MADMAN
stuff is what I'm most excited about. I guess I'd have
to say MADMAN is what I'm most MOST proud of.
At the same time
Red Rocket 7 was out, you released a music CD, The Gear: Son of
Red Rocket 7, where Mr. Red Allrod (!) sang and played the guitars.
Your music is a little bit low fi with a psychedelic touch and a
flavour of seventies rock. I like it! What kind of music do you
prefer?
Low fi psychedelic
seventies rock.
[If you want a sample
of Mike Allred's music click on the links below to download two
mp3 songs from his CD!]
Subtle
Song [560 KB]
Black
Narcissus [821 KB]
Can
you list Mike Allred's Top Ten songs?
Today? [it's 08-11-2001]
1-Moonage daydream
- David Bowie
2-Street Fighting
Man - The Stones
3-In My Life - The
Beatles
4-Auf Weidersehen
- Cheap Trick
5-Lady Grinning Soul
- David Bowie
6-Jigsaw Puzzle -
Stones
7-Just Try - Dandy
Warhols
8-Red Eyes and Tears
- Black Rebel Motorcycle Club
9-Super-Sonic - Brian
Jonestown Massacre
10-She's a Lady -
Tom Jones
Tomorrow would be
a completely different list.
When a new CD?
When a tour?
New CD within the next
couple of years maybe. A tour? Never. I rarely leave my house anymore.
I'm happy to stay here in the Citadel. [This is what Mike and Laura
call their house in Eugene, Oregon. A citadel is like a fortress].
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[4]
HOLLYWOOD, I AM ARRIVING!
There was rumor
about an upcoming Madman movie involving director Robert Rodriguez
(El Mariach, Spy Kids). Can you reveal us more? Who would you like
to play the Madman role? Which is the cast of your dreams?
Still moving forward.
A SPY KIDS sequel is in the way for now. Look for a cameo from our
daughter, Kelby.
My cast preferences
change as often as my favorite songs.
Did you read Bendis'
Fortune and Glory about his experience with Hollywood? In your opinion
does it show the truth?
DEAD ON!
You
also directed some low budget independent movies. I remember a title,
Astroesque. A great title, man. What was it about? What kind
of movies do you like?
It was about the
Spiritual end of the world. With a little action thrown in.
Like I said before,
I like all GOOD movies.
Someone thinks
that comics are very similar to movies, but I think they are more
similar to literature, to telling a story with a visual approach.
Which is your opinion about?
There I have to disagree.
I was attracted to doing them as the poor man's film medium. You
can tell a great comic book story with only pictures. It wouldn't
be a comic book without the pictures. The same could be said about
film.
If you have to
choose: comics, movie or music?
Now that I've done
all three I made my choice and it was an easy choice to make. I
plan to do more with movie's and music, but they are a distant second
to comics. [up]

Madman e Red Rocket
7 are © Mike Allred
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